I have purchased 8 sets of gold sta-tites over the last 5 years and have been quite happy until the last set of which two of the tuners had a large amount of slop, probably 1/8 of a turn of slack when going from tighten to loosen or back. This is quite bad to me so I have probably bought my last Grover's
I just bought a Gibson J-45 and switched out the old Grovers for the 18:1 Sta-Tites and I love the result. First, they are simply a better tuner than the stock Grovers that came with the guitar, and as they are open-backed, the look is terrific, and at a much lower price than the Waverlys I had initially wanted. If you do this for the J-45, you also need the 10.5 bushing for the peg holes. I also swapped out the crappy plastic bridge pins for a set of snakewood pins. Better look, better tone, and all for under 75 bucks. You can't beat it.
I have used both these and Waverly vintage-style tuners, and these are a clear winner. They have slightly finer action, and I can detect no significant difference in appearance, installation or function. Waverly uses different metal for the gear and bushings, and this may have long-term benefits that I haven't seen yet, but otherwise the Sta-Tites are a much better value. I give customers the choice, and they take the Grovers unless they are image-conscious. The $100 saved can be better invested in overall guitar quality by buying better tonewood.
I have used several brands of vintage style tuners and the Grover Sta-Tites are simply the best for the money and as good the more expensive Waverly's. Go ahead, save yourself about $105.00
Definitely well built and smooth. My old acoustic is in perfect tune again!
Great value, replaced 2 sets of tuners with these and the results are awesome. Easy instal and very smooth machines, well built
Excellent tuners. Replaced the stock tuners on a Martin 000 28 and Gibson j 45. Much lighter and more accurate than the stock tuners. Looks better too. Great product and great price too.
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